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Ep.13 H2L-Sober Adjacent living to become a Healthy Happy Human - Paul Levitin
On today's episode, Rachel speaks with Paul Levitin. Paul is behind the Healthy Happy Human Project. He proclaims himself as "sober adjacent". For Paul, this means he has given up the stereotypical frat guy persona, and now is able to drink when he wants, but has realized that his life can be just as fulfilling when he is mentally and physically present without a social lubricant. Paul lives and works in the personal growth space. Mental, physical and spiritual connection is what Paul yearns for when approaching life. Paul is a Healthy Happy Human. Tune in to find out how he got to that place, as he has not always been there.
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Podcast- Healthy Happy Human
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Speaker 3:Hi and welcome to another episode of hungry to live. My name is Rachel. I love telling stories of how people become successful after a time of really big hardship. I also like to tell stories through recovery and I know that my next guest, Paul has a story of recovery and has a story of how he has become the healthy, happy human that he is today. Welcome Paul.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Hi Rachel. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate, I appreciate everything and I appreciate being here.
Speaker 3:Thank you for being here. So I'm going to start off by saying I judged a book by its cover and was like, I absolutely love this guy's brand name<laugh>, which is healthy, happy human. And I was like, I just need him on my show. So I'm praying that this is a great episode.<laugh> I'm just kidding. Um, I have done a little bit of research on you and I want to, I'm just gonna in and
Speaker 4:Sure. I'm an open book.
Speaker 3:Okay, good. Um, so I noticed that you come from a background of recovery because you dabbled in the alcoholism<laugh> and it was that, that you were having, that you realized, you know, this isn't as fun as I thought it was because I am missing milestones in people's lives that are part of my life. And I, I wanna be present. I'm not really present for myself and I'm not present for them. So how am I going to do this? So Paul, please tell us how you became present in your life after giving up alcohol.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure. Well, as for one, I, I will say like, I'm not, I don't consider myself to be completely sober. I will say I'm like sober, adjacent, so I don't drink most of the time, but I will like drink a, a CAD occasion, you know, a wedding or something like that. So I'm not like completely sober. I just wanna put that out there, but, uh, yeah, I mean, my, my experience was, you know, in, in college, especially I started drinking in college late, I guess you could say at like 17, but I guess that's late for some people cuz some people started in high school. I started drinking around 17. Um, and college was also when I kind of came into my own as a individual, as many people do. And you know, a big part of that was me getting drunk and making a fool of myself. So that kind of became a big part of my identity for, for those years. It was very formative years of, of just partying all the time, drinking drugs were involved as well. And just, it became, it became who I was to be the guy who was the drunkest at the party. Right. So like that's, if I was going out, it was so that I could, I could do shots and, and just be the, the guy so that it, you know, everyone would tell stories about how drunk I was the next day or whatever. And like that just became a part of who I was. And eventually I graduated college and you know, started working and it was kind of just the same thing because now it's like, oh, now I have money right before I was doing this as a broke college kid and now I have money and I can, I can actually afford to do this. And like then I was, you know, I lived in New York city. So then it was going out to nightclub and going out to the, the fun bars and all that stuff. And it was just like, oh, like, this is, this is cool. This is what, what you do. This is, you know, this is being an adult and it wasn't until I kind of years it took me. I, you know, it was around the time I was 27 or so. And it was accumulation of a few different things that really kind of struck me, but a big part of it was, uh, you know, the birth of my nephew was my, my first, my, the first smaller thing than me and my family. But, and then another big part of it was at 27. I had had this job where I was working. I was working as a personal trainer and I hadn't been there for about five years and I had kind of reached the top of the, the company. I was, you know, I was the highest paid trainer there. I was doing well by all outside measures I was doing well. And that was why thought it was so cool because it was like, I was like pulling the wool over everyone's eye. Right. It was like, oh yeah, like this is like, I got it figured out. Like I get to go out all night and get hammered. And then I come into work tomorrow and then like nobody knows and nobody, nobody knows the difference. And like, I, like, I got, like, I thought I had cracked life's code. And then what I realized was I, I looked back at, you know, I was 27. I looked by act at 22, 23, 24. Not only did I like was, I was like, well, I haven't really done anything. I've just, I got this job at 22. I'm in the same job. I'm getting paid a little bit more. Cause I'm doing better. But like I haven't really grown or moved forward or anything. Part one. And then part two is I just also didn't remember a lot. Like there were a lot of like memories and like parties and things that I had done. And I was like, I don't remember any of that. So I kind of just flipped that. And I was like, well, if that's what the last five years look like, what would the next five years look like if I continue down this path? And then again, that also happened right. When my nephew was born and I was just getting a little bit older to where I was like, I could kind of start to see like, oh, maybe, maybe this isn't what life is about. Um, and in that time I also discovered personal development, which was, you know, a lot of a, a few formative books, a few good podcasts that just everything, it was the perfect storm of things. Like, I, I never thought that this would be, I was ne I was never a big reader. I was never a big, I never listened to podcast. I didn't even know what a podcast was back then. And it just, everything hit me. Right. Just at the right moment, just in the right way that I was just like, oh, maybe there is something different that I could do. Maybe there is something better out there that I could be spending my time on. Maybe there is something bigger out there that I could be working on. Maybe it doesn't have to be that at 27, I've already topped out. And like, I I've peaked in life. Um, and so I started to embrace that and I started to spend my more, more, and more of my time doing things like education, going to, instead of going out on the weekends, I would go to seminars instead of, you know, staying out all night, I would stay home and read a book. And it was a very gradual process. It's not like it just like flipped over overnight, but you know, 27, 28, 29, 30, I'm 32. Now over those, those next five years, I went a completely different direction. And it was all, it was at first by accident. But then at, after that, it was very deliberate because I saw what it was to be that person to just be the guy who's just, I would say floating through life where like, yeah, I was getting by again, I was making money and I was like, I could, I could have lived like that forever, but I would've never gone anywhere. It would've just been treading water and just kind of living like living in a, a mist for the rest of my life versus yeah, it was hard. Yeah. Like, you know, not going out drinking anymore. I lo I lost a lot of friends because a lot of my friends were just my drink buddies and I lost a lot of social experiences because I, you know, that's what I, you know, I didn't know how do you be social without drinking? And a lot of stuff had to change, but what you get on the other side of that change is growth and happiness and a real life that isn't just a, a life lived in a drunken St. So it, it was well worth it for me know if that actually answered your question, but that's kind of my journey.
Speaker 3:It, it answered my question. It was a great journey you took me on. And there's a couple things I wanted to say. So first off, thank you so much for, at the beginning, letting the listener know that you don't identify as a hundred percent sober. I'm I always love when somebody is just authentic and wants everyone to understand like, no, actually this is what it is that I am. And it's okay. And you embrace that because that is part of your story. That is part of the journey that you're still on. The other thing I wanted to say is you said you were deliberate in these life choices to grow through your life choices. Whereas you were deliberate in your life choices prior to that, to be that human at those parties who was drinking for the, to get that attention and then to get that validation a day after. So it's so funny to think at, of being a person who is a vessel and you have these things that you do, and you're just another version of that person. So you had this deliberate act that you did in college, and you took that deliberateness that you had in college and reframed it to how it would help you be successful, where you are now, because other parts of your journey led you to where you are now. And you actually saw that and saw the importance of being here now. And you also talked about how you surviving and not thriving, and you just wanted to thrive. So I know that you have, so you talked about how you also, um, were you were working in a fitness, the fitness industry, and you were the top trainer and you loved that and you were doing all these things. And I know that now you are thriving in what you are doing to help others by being a self growth coach, along with training. Can you talk about how you're thriving now in your life?
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure. So, you know, again, to, to your point about like, ma like what I said before about being sober, adjacent and not being sober. Cuz that's the thing is like, when I say I don't dream, it's not because like I don't drink because I'm sober. It's because I don't drink because it's not cohesive to the life that I wanna live at this point. Like I could drink any date right now, but I just don't want to. So that's the thing, like I feel like when people say they're sober, it's more of like, it's a decision. Like I'm going to be sober. That's a decision you make for me, it's like, I just don't want to drink because my life is better when I, I don't drink. So it's it's, to me, it's a very, it's a very logical conclusion. It's not about like, oh, I'm not allowed to drink or I can drink or something. It's just like, I know what my life is like when I drink. And I know what it's like, like when I don't drink. So it's just, it's just how I choose to live right now. But you know, and that's a part of my thriving because you know, this all goes in, it goes hand in hand together. But what I'm doing now, as you said, development, coaching, personal growth, I call it happiness coaching because the, it was for me, a lot of this came in the last few years. Again, I was a personal trainer for many years and I loved doing that. And I, I helped a lot of people, but if I'm being honest, I was in the fitness space for almost 10 years. And although I did help a lot of people, I didn't help a lot of people. And when I say that, what I, most people who come into a gym and hire a personal trainer, don't get the results that they, that they want. And that's not just with me, that's just in general. That's because most people come in thinking that it's gonna be one way and, and that it's not right. They think that just hiring a trainer is gonna, is gonna get, get them everything that they need, or they think that it's gonna be easier than, than they thought it was or, or a million other things. And I understood this and I was very, always very upfront with my clients about this. Like, Hey, you know, like, this is what it's gonna take. You can, you know, you can do the work and I can, I can guide you there or you can, you know, not, and that's okay too, because that's, that's your decision. But what I saw was in the fitness world, in social media and, and, and you know, the other places on YouTube on Instagram, there's a lot of these promises being made in terms of like what people think is going to make them happy. Right. And, and so many, uh, so many people would come to me. Like I wanna lose weight. I wanna have abs I wanna have big arms, whatever the thing was. But what they're really saying is why, why do you want that? Well, because you wanna be happy, right? You think that when you lose the weight, that you're gonna be happier. You think that when you have the big arms, you're gonna be happier. You think that when whatever, the thing, whatever the physical change is, that that's what, when you're gonna get the girl or you're gonna get the guy, or you're gonna feel more self confident. And again, I went through it enough times with hundreds and hundreds of people, and then saw it be being played out on a bigger scale with thousands of people in the world that I was in again in the social media world. And I have many friends who are trainers and just watching it. I'm just like this, isn't it. This isn't the answer. So if the thing that people want is to be happy, what I wanna do is help them actually be happy. And what I realized was that that has much more to do with human behavior, psychology, with, you know, motivation, if you wanna call it that and all these other more, uh, you know, ephemeral things that kind of are, you can't really put your finger on, but that's, to me where the work is, and that's the work that I wanna be doing. So to me per professionally, I actually stopped. I, I left the gym, I stopped doing personal training. I stopped doing nutrition. And now I only do, uh, personal development, happiness coaching around education and personal growth. And that's what lights me up because to me, that's, that's everything. Right. And when you have that, then the fitness part, the nutrition part, the money part, the relationship part, it all kind of just falls into place by a natural buy a product of that. Right. And this goes back to me like, like I said, not wanting to drink and not wanting to do, to do that stuff anymore because this is, I enjoy this. Right. So, you know, we're, we're recording this, you know, it's, uh, uh, it's 8:00 PM where I am in New York city. And I had, I was up this morning at 6:30 AM to record a podcast with some guy on like Croatian or something like that. You know? And like, I couldn't do that if I was hungover from the night before, or if I was just getting home at 5:00 AM, because<laugh> because the clubs close at, at four here in New York. So, you know, and it's like, but again, it doesn't feel like I'm doing less. It feels like I'm doing more because I'm now living in alignment with my beliefs and with the things that I want to do and the, and the impact I wanna leave the world.
Speaker 3:That's impressive. I, I wish I could say I could be working at six and still working at 8:00 PM and being able to be present in both aspects and spectrums of that. Anyway, that's a whole other story. But, um, so I think it's really interesting that you started in the fitness world and now you're, you're did fitness coaching, and now you're doing personal growth coaching and something that goes in tandem with both of those things are goals. So what is something that you see that is a goal that clients in both areas are starting with in order to put themself to the next level?
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure. I mean, and, and that's the thing. That's why I feel like what I'm doing now is just a natural progression of what I was doing before. Right. And I say this all the time. I have, I have a podcast. I, I do coaching and stuff like this all the time. And one thing I say more than anything else probably is everything is the same. So I use fitness as an analogy, but fitness is an analogy for personal growth. You know, dieting is an analogy for fitness. Relationships are an analogy for dieting. Once you understand that, that's what I'm saying. This is just human stuff. This is human nature. Right? So to your question, you know, personal development, fitness, what's a common goal. So we can look at something like as simple as consistency, right? Consistency is key. Everyone throws that around, but that's why I'm saying, like, I don't have to talk about fitness and to be like, oh, fit, fit. Consistency is key in your workouts. Consistency is key in your diets. We can, we can just chop off the second part of that sentence and just understand that consistency is key everywhere in life. There's nowhere that showing up less, better than showing up more. It just doesn't work like that. This is, this is a law of the universe, just like gravity is right. So what I work on with my clients is not, how do I get you to work out consistently? It's how do I get you to be a consistent person? And then if you want to take that and then take it to the gym, then great. You wanna take that and take it to a diet or take it to your therapist. I don't, you know, what, what you choose to do with that is that's on you. But the point is that there's certain key, fundamental things that underlie everything else. So with goal setting, again, being consistent is huge. Another thing is having big goals and little goals at the same time, right? Meaning people under like, well, when we talk about goal setting you're, if you think about having a huge goal, a lot of times people will be like, well, you have to be realistic with goal setting, right? Everyone's sort of smart goal specific, measurable, whatever, whatever, realistic. Okay. And that's important, right? Because if you have the goal of I'm gonna be a millionaire tomorrow, and you're nowhere close to being a millionaire, then you're, that's not a realistic goal. And it's going to become self defeating. Right? A lot of people say, well, have a, you'd have to have, you have to have smaller goals that are more manageable, which is true to an extent, because we need these smaller, what I call low hanging fruit process goals. And these process goals are the goals that I do every day. Right? So if I have that big, but, but the thing is that I still need the big goal. This is where people mess up. They think it's one or the other, but it's not. It's both because I need the big goal. That's way off in the future to push me, to motivate me, cuz it's like, what am I working for? And then I need the small, low hanging fruit goals to work on daily so that I have action steps that feel like they're actually moving me forward. Right? Because if we go back to the fitness thing, as an analogy, let's say, I wanna lose a hundred pounds. If you come to me and say, you wanna lose a hundred pounds, we, we can stand that. That's not something that happens in a day or a week. That's a bit, that's a huge goal. So some people say that's, that's too big of a goal because if your, if your brain is fixated on that a hundred pound number, even if you work hard for six months and you're down 40 pounds, it feels like it's like, well, there's still 60 pounds to go. That's so much it feels defeating. But now again, so you say, well, don't, don't focus on the big goal. Focus on the daily action steps. What are my daily action steps, drink more water, get more sleep, count your steps, whatever, whatever, whatever, all that stuff. But now if I'm only focused on those things and I'm not thinking about the a hundred pounds, it feels like it's moving so slow. It's moving at a snails pace. It's like I have a hundred pounds to lose. And all I'm doing is drinking more water and getting an extra hour of sleep. It's like, what is that even doing for me? So we have these two things, but we need both of them in balance to push us forward and keep us motivated, but also keep us in the realm of reality and keep us moving 1% better. One step forward every day got,
Speaker 3:Because that 1%, every day gets us to that 100% or that 365 days. And you know, I love, so you talked about this, um, law of the universe and something that I'm hearing through all of these examples and all the everything you're talking about is another law of the universe that I, to always talk about it's connection, everything is connected and you even said that. So I really enjoy how you have these fitness analogies to go with the, um, self growth piece. And that's all connected, but it's connected to something even larger, which you also talked about. There's something larger than, uh, us as individuals here on this planet. And, um, it's just amazing to me. I love talking to people who have all of these different stories and come from all walks of life. And we're all brought here because we're all connected. Whether or not you believe that. Like I just, I think it's just amazing that all these stories on my, a podcast on your podcast, on other podcasts, like we're all connected by a common thread and we all wanna learn about each other because we are all connected. Um, so where do you, I'm gonna ask you about a personal goal of yours.<laugh> where do you see yourself in the next, like five years with your, the pro and the platform you're working on?
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure. Um, I think that that is huge. It's super important. This is an exercise that I do with my clients all the time, and I do it with myself on a regular basis. Um, I call it, you just your five year plan. And I actually just released a podcast about this, like two weeks ago about exactly this topic of, of how many people do you ask this question to, and that are just, it's like, they've never thought about this, right. And you know, one of my big concepts is you don't, you don't reach out, you don't reach a destination you didn't set out for, so you don't, you don't end up somewhere by accident. No one, no one accidentally stumbles into success. I, that I that's one thing I do know, I study successful people and they all did it very deliberately. So, you know, when you ask about my five year plan, I can literally walk you what my date will look like when I five years from now. But to, for, for what my business want is, is going to be, I say is going to not what I'm trying to make, what it's going to be. Um, the, the two things I'm most passionate about are my podcast and my educational courses. So the podcast, because it is the biggest thing that has the potential to reach the most people. It is free also, right? So that's not necessarily a money generating thing, but that's something that I'm super passionate about. And that's what I'm putting the most of my energy and my effort into, because I know it has the most possibility to affect the most people because people message me, you know, every day or every week talking about, Hey, I, I listened to, you know, this episode and it was so, you know, it was so great. And it, it literally changed my life and like crazy stuff. That's like, who the am I to changed someone's life, you know? And yet it's happening. So that's super cool to me. And then the other thing is the my educational program. So I have different courses. I have coaching. I have, you know, master classes and workshops that I do that I offer online that are, are the same as I'm doing in the, in the podcast. I literally don't hold anything back in the podcast. I give all my best stuff away for free, but it is just, it's just put into a container that's that is there for people who, if you, you know, I think of the podcast as like, if you want to do it on your own, you have the podcast and it's there, it's for free. You know, I say, you know, and then if you want your handheld and you want to be walked through the process, you know, becoming your best self, then I'm there for you as a coach, as a mentor, uh, as an educator. But I just look at myself in everything that I'm doing as education. I want to educate the world. I love reading about this stuff, talking about this stuff, learning about this stuff, as you do, right. You can hear when I talk about it, like it gets me excited. I read a lot of books. I just taught a, a speed reading seminar. I learned speed reading. So I could read more books because I was reading too slow. And I there's so many books out there that I wanted to read. So I learned how to speed read. And, you know, I know that I'm a crazy person, and I know that most people are not gonna do that. Most people are not gonna go. Hmm. I can't read that much. Maybe I should learn how to triple my reading speed so I can read more so that's okay. No one else has to do that because what I do is I read all those books and then I go and I make a podcast about it, or I go and I make a course about it. And I listen to all the podcasts. And I'm just, I look at myself as an aggregator of information, because I think these are the conversations and these are the things that, that people need to be hearing, but where even start, you know, again, I, I, that you have to understand that the only reason I ended up here was I was fortunate enough to be in the space that I was being the industry fitness. The nutrition is very close to health and wellness. I, I stumbled upon this stuff by accident. Again, someone handed me a book, the, the way I became I I'm, I have, um, a board license as a health and wellness coach. And the only reason I got my, my, my board license that went through the, the rigorous testing that I had to do, it was because I was still a personal trainer at the time. But I was like, this just seems kind of related to personal training. And I want to be the best personal trainer I can be. So I just wanted to do it cuz again, that's the type of person I am. But then it just so happens that I was like, oh, I'm just gonna leave the personal training behind it. But you know, it was, again, I would've never been in a place to even know that that was a thing that existed. If I wasn't in the gym researching this stuff, I know that this stuff happened deliberately or I, I chose to make this happen, but there was a lot of luck and happenstance that also allowed me to be in the right places to even understand and learn that this stuff is a thing. Right? The book, one of the books that was that I said was handed to me, was literally given to me by one of the kids who worked at the front desk at the gym I worked at was thinking, grow rich and thinking, grow rich as like the, the, the epitome of, of the self-help books. And I just decided to actually read it. I hadn't read a book in like 10 years at that point, but he handed it to me and I was like, I'll read this stupid book. And it literally changed my life. So like, oh, that, that, like you can call that the universe, you can call whatever you want, you can call it luck. So, you know, I, I'm just saying that. I know a lot of people aren't in this place, that, that, that I was to create this. So I wanna make it easier. And I want to make it a shorter distance that it doesn't take them 10 years to figure out it takes them a couple months. So, you know, what that would look like is my podcast getting a million downloads in episode. And my course is, you know, changing the lives of, you know, 10,000 people or something like that. If I wanna put numbers on it.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, when your podcast gets a million downloads, I'm also going to put this podcast out again and be like, I knew him when<laugh>, um, I think that you, you spoke about a being within your own alignment. And prior to this question, and you talked about happenstance and luck, and I think that when you are more aligned with yourself and what your goals are, even if you're not fully aware and mindful of it, the universe starts putting things in your way and you literally trip over them. And you're like, this is what you just keep getting the signs and the signs just keep on in. And that book happened to be a sign. Um, I also, for the first time had this crazy revelation, um, personal training. So while you were personal training, we live in a society where we look at personal training as the physical being, but personal training, when you take the two words, personal individual training, which is self growth. It's like, what?<laugh> sorry. I had to share that because I was just like sitting here listening to you talk. And I was like, wow, if we could market it like that, it doesn't have to be physical because the physical part will fall into place when your mentally and spiritually and aligned, like you talk about because it it's, everything again is connected. And it I'm just thank you for teaching me something. I, I think I have mastered your master class
Speaker 4:<laugh> yeah, for sure. And, and you know, but that's why I was saying, like, to me, it was a logical progression. Like that that's exactly like I came to that conclusion. I was like, oh, this is the only conclusion could come to that. It's like, there's only so much that the body can do if we're not talking to the mind that like, we're, we're, we're, you're talking to a, a brick wall at a certain point. So that's why, to me, it was just like, okay, like, and for a while I was doing both, I was like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sell them the personal training, but I'm gonna feed them the mindset stuff. And then it just became like, no, I don't even wanna do that anymore. Like, I just want, I let, let's just cut right to the chase.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I'm sure that you've, uh, studied up on this and we're gonna get a little deep, really fast, but Cartesian, dualism mind with body and body with mind, like, can you have'em both, are they separate entities? Sorry. That's just what it reminded me of.<laugh>. So every episode I ask my guest, what keeps them hungry to live? So, Paul, what keeps you hungry to live?
Speaker 4:It keeps me hungry to live. You know, I think that it's just that we only get this one life. And I think that you get to decide how you go through this life. And I have to just theoretically put in another 60 years here. I mean, you know, something, something crazy could happen. I could get into a car accident. I could have a heart attack, but most people, they, you have this time, it's not going anywhere. So I don't think of it as like doing extra stuff to live an amazing life. I think about it as if I don't do this, I'm choosing to live a<inaudible> life, right? Like if it's not about like me exercising to be more fit, it's the point that if I don't exercise, I'm letting my body literally decay and die. It's not about me reading my book, reading books to become more it's about the fact that my brain needs exercise and it needs to, it needs to do things. It's not about me getting out into nature because of anything like that. It's just about, you know, the thing, that's the universe. We talked about a few times. The universe is entropy, right? The universe is chaos and the universe is movement. Okay. That's the thing. There is no staying the same. There is no staying still. You don't get to. Okay. I'm good. Lock it in like save game. And I'll just be good here now forever. No, if you are not actively getting better, you're making a choice to actively get worse. And so it, that's how I look at everything it's not about. Yeah. Like it it's, it's, it's hard to work out, but you know, I'm, I'm good where I'm at. It's yeah. It's hard to work out, but also everything else that I get from not working out is gonna be hard too, from aches and pains to whatever else, to all these other things. And again, I just use fitness as an analogy because it's easy, but you can talk, you can say that you can take out fitness and put in the word business. Yes. It's hard to work and, and get a raise and get a promotion or make your own company or become an entrepreneur. Yes. All of those things are hard. There's no, there's no doubt about that. But so is having a life where you can't afford to do anything and having, and, and feeling like you can't provide for your family and then doing all these other things. So it's like, I don't, I, I, to me, it's just a logical thing of like, there is no other choice that I could possibly make.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I speechless.<laugh> I dunno how to even how to wrap that up, except can you please give the listener your socials so they know where to find you<laugh>
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Um, yeah, it's just, my name is Paul Leviton at all. Social media handles. So Instagram is where I'm most active. Um, but you can find me on Facebook for send me a friend request. TikTok is I guess, a place that I exist. I don't really use it. LinkedIn is something that I, that I'm active on. Uh, and my podcast, which, you know, I'm sure that we'll have links to or something somewhere. But if you wanna check me out, you can find me in the POS, the podcast world, too. That's where I'm doing most of my content. I release at least an episode a week. And I'm super passionate about talking about if you like this conversation. This is what, what, everything that I talk about is
Speaker 3:Can you repeat the name of your podcast, even though I've said it a few times?
Speaker 4:Yeah. It's the healthy, happy human podcast.
Speaker 3:Awesome. All right. And for anyone who is interested in subscribing and checking out all of my content, um, hungry, the number two live.com or on Instagram, hungry dot the number two.live. And at the end of every episode, I read a poem about my guest. So here's yours, Paul, the healthy, happy human project emerged out of a societal defect as an unhealthy alcoholic. He needed something cathartic. In order to reshaped the Snapes in his brain, his mindset required a retrain. Then he asked himself why from there, he gave it a try. Knowing there was more than what he had been feeling. Paul knew he needed some healing mindset, motivation, fitness, and nutrition, coupled with personal growth. He found his mission, listening to others in providing daily pep talks and quotes. Paul offers support to those who need it most. Thank you so much, Paul, and thanks for listening to hungry to live.
Speaker 5:That was awesome. Thank you so much. That was beautiful. That's so cool
Speaker 6:In the right place, in the wrong, down on my luck there dog days, how to switch it up, make it okay. So I gave up on the rare race learned from a BA may days. Still got town. Never too late. No, I don't care.
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Speaker 6:I came
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